That Chris Barrie and Chuck Troutman should be juxtaposed in our chatroom is indeed an 'exquisite' irony. The worst image I took away from my boyhood was the tortured face of Charles Troutman in the Eastern quad in 1957 reduced by merciless bullying to feral hissing and spitting back at his tormentors. Chris of course, to his great credit, recently stopped the clock for the defence force to confront the same problem. Perhaps we should search out Troutman, if only to say sorry for a school and a system that failed to protect him. We now know in this country saying sorry remains essential for some things from long ago, even if our PM is a failure in that regard. Excuse the sombre note among the great levity. This just touched a vein. Bruce Donald