Ron, I caught up with Robert Rayner. His details are below (note change to the Post Code). He doesn't think he'll make it, but sends his regards. I think he wants to be kept in the loop on developments. He is still at IBM Canada after 33 years. Robert Rayner 5 Celebrity Place, Markham, Ontario Canada L3P 7N6. Home phone: +1 905 294 4464 email: Lrayner@attglobal.net Cheers Tony Friend